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( Z  q: V4 r! ]: W3 M; s首先是英國的網友評論。
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7 r- S- ?# U) R' l. Y' _5 M! q  colin ? 2 hours 31 minutes ago % W' C- |( W4 j8 m6 F8 g' p+ H" `
  Well that’s one more carrier and one more carrier capable plane than we’ve got.
0 y. B6 G6 T* u, x  Well done Dave for scrapping the carriers and Harriers just when we needed them.
* m' n( a. e4 A, I; O  一艘又一艘可以起落艦載機的航母超過我們。我們那些官老爺們呢?我們需要航母,可他們卻毀滅他們。
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; H1 T' O) A: I  CARVER ? 2 hours 27 minutes ago $ L# v  u4 F2 O; s9 n
  more people speak Chinese than in this world owing to the fact that there are more of them than all of the rest of us added together' O3 J& Z1 q* o) r  H" a
  很快這個世界就會有越來越多的人說中文了,因為他們比我們其他人全部加起來多要多。
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( \2 Z1 D) h+ x. r( O9 l  danger_moose ? 2 hours 27 minutes ago
9 D# j, z4 u2 U  Air-craft carriers are floating death traps, thousands of lives lost and billions of dollars ended by a couple of torpedo's. The only reason China have now acquired one, is that it is a show of a nations might if they have an carrier in their arsenal. Technology in torpedo design has come on leap's and bound's, just one well placed might be able to sink a carrier.% `7 ]6 L; v0 {
  航母就是浮動的棺材,幾顆魚雷就可以擊沉這個耗費幾千人和數十億美元的廢物。中國搞這個玩意兒的目的就是向世界炫耀他們自己的武器庫里也有這個東西了,他們的國家就強大了。現在魚雷的技術非常厲害,只有放置得當,一顆魚雷就可以解決這個航母。
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  David C ? 2 hours 53 minutes ago . r  ~! R; P  g/ d
  Never mind the end of the world, China will be capable of doing that !
& e: ?3 Y0 r. u& q9 e  我們不用擔心世界末日了,中國將會搞定一切。
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1 q: F1 t# S, Q# C. G  anon ? 2 hours 31 minutes ago
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& j( |5 o1 k, J" n: T  do you think we might be able to borrow it from them instead of the French  \" ]+ {4 @! W+ z  e1 }
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/ I) ^( H' ~  y0 D! H8 e9 m  你現在是否在考慮我們可以向中國人借航母了,而不是向法國人呢?" u* S! c8 ?, c) _5 h1 s1 e
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  Walker ? 3 hours ago ( p! e  o6 n5 K2 a5 {
  A second hand small Russian carrier they got 10 years ago using 80 year old landing technology not high end then
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  CARVER ? 2 hours 22 minutes ago
# f  b8 E. _, H% T2 V( U  don't fall into that trap Walker they have the money to buy the expertise and any darn thing that they want they have the power to ruin any economy that they wish
; }" x% _* V$ n+ Z5 K, X  how many things do you have in your hose that says made in china stamped on it?1 X6 r; m$ n5 T) v  j: z
  別扯這沒用的。中國人有的是錢,他們可以買到任何他們感興趣的東西,他們有能力控制整個世界的經濟。
, {, d, M3 v1 G2 O  你回去看看,就你家里一個小小的水龍頭,看看是不是中國制造的。
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& g3 P5 N9 F3 X  Whats the big deal, so called corrupt sonia landed her plane on the roof of White House. Dont under estimate corrupt congress President.
% B6 G  [$ r7 R/ s) D# \: z  又怎么樣?就算是腐敗的索尼婭把她的飛機降落在白宮屋頂上又怎么樣。不要低估那些國大黨的腐敗程度。( Y3 q2 \: |1 a; |5 I

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" w% D5 \4 C0 [/ v1 ~$ N  Bad news for indian6 Y$ ~3 b8 b% ]( b! o5 [2 Z+ q, w, U% R
  Soon china will strike
* {' v, m+ z( v1 j. S  對于印度來說真是個壞消息啊。6 G: a. o' j; \4 T& T' V: V" p
  中國很快就要進攻了。
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Doesn't matter. India already had the aircraft carriers decades ago.
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1 W  C! a' h4 S1 p1 \4 R$ W  And Chiness came to disclose this matter to you, that indian army software is hacked and we can do bombarding any where in India
5 d8 M) a2 ?1 k  中國人根本就不會讓印度人明白,印度所有的軍方軟件都被黑掉了,他們可以隨心所欲地轟炸印度任何地方。
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. |+ q1 `; j& E* j+ L4 K6 `( q, ]& N  We will invite U.S aircraft carriers to garrison in India.
( P" r0 J" Y1 ~: j$ I4 M/ p  我們可以邀請美國的航母來幫助防衛印度。+ Z* N9 q3 \" ]) e

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  China prospered without India's dummy democracy/caste system.8 K! k/ B+ H! c+ e
  Indians are brainwashed to believe that "voting in elections = democracy".
3 {% J, i( ~( |4 c9 O  中國如此繁榮就是因為沒有那***民主和種姓制度。# g& d, Q" W5 B
  印度人都被洗腦了,因為他們相信選票可以帶來一切。
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8 i1 d1 Y5 A- x' j: A( pRe: Be realistic
! a5 e% d; W0 r& c3 t  Q! f  by Mar Thoma
0 d2 n6 _  q# l+ T4 y: W  India and China are in different level.Lankans need not worry abt that! - r0 J; e+ w9 ^: c8 J
  Maybe ur country got some heip from china.so u are showing ur loyalty.(like a Slumpig)) h& E8 d5 {7 A1 d# J7 i8 ], O3 E
  印度和中國根本是不同層次的。你個區區斯里蘭卡就別操心了。; v7 A4 b/ e) K: n* w; i; }) R
  也許你們國家從中國那兒得了好處和幫助。所以你像個哈巴狗一樣跑來向主子表忠心了
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  An Indian Engineer who was working in a company in Gujarat (GIDC, Makarpura) have gone to chian during 2000 and worked there till 2010. Now that man is an industrialist after working of 10 years in chian. That means in china salary/wage is far more better than in India. In fact in china wage is 25 times more than in India. This is 100% correct because one of my brother is working in gulf country since 1980. Recently he told that when he went gulf there were chinese people working in several firm and that too equal numbers of keralites in gulf. Now he says that there is no chinese people working in gulf because of the development in china. I am asking rediff where is the development in India?
# c5 e7 J4 V  x/ S; }0 X  一位在塔塔公司的前工程師曾經在200年到2010年在中國工作。在中國工作十年后,他現在是一位實業家。這意味著中國的工資和收入遠遠超過印度。事實上中國的工資是印度的25倍。這點100%正確,因為我的一個兄弟1980年的時候在海灣國家工作過。他告訴我,1980年的時候,海灣國家到處都是中國人,他們為了掙錢遠離故土。但現在他看不到一個中國人了,因為他們都回國了,因為國內的收入比他們在海灣掙得還多。我現在想問,印度這些年可曾有任何的發展嗎?. k+ F" b- [$ S9 p, z

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  strength matteres, this is what chinese showing us. they believ in strength and time to time they are showing it. this is a point we must understand it in correct perception. in our case we are afraid of everything that includes, pakistan,srilanka,maldives,burma, bungladesh, bhutan. these countries are our nighbours and understand our weeknesses and taking undue advantage about the prevailing situation in around our country. these countries would have annexed us the strength and power which we have today.that is why the entire world is calling us a soft power. - z8 w. \0 I: j6 D
  有實力才是老大。這就是中國一直在做的。他們相信實力,他們不斷地展示自己的肌肉。這點我們必須要正確理解。我們印度太膽小怕事了,所以所有的鄰居都欺負我們,包括巴基斯坦,斯里蘭卡,馬爾代夫,緬甸,孟加拉國,不丹。他們知道我們的弱點,他們善意利用這些弱點來欺負我們。這些國家總有一天會蠶食掉我們。這就是為什么整個世界都稱印度為兔子的原因。
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% Q! I7 C, ?  j9 w: D& k  Look underneath says made in america batteries not included- i5 C; o( H7 d' A- Y
  注意看飛機和航母的下面,你會發現美國制造幾個小字,當然不包括電池了
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6 L' t; l4 A3 I  More stolen technology
5 y1 b- S5 j8 U6 P' s  全部都是偷的。
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  w2 W9 u' f  I) L* m; i# ]  "It's a very interesting development. It shows how rapidly they're moving ahead."
( |6 p# N7 E" ^$ l7 W( b  A big "thank you" should go towards the U.S. from China. After all, they did hack into our military and defense secrets.- w7 h5 c  U2 T: T
  ?非常有意思的進步。這顯示了中國是如何飛躍的。/ ^, _7 Y( |& v6 E0 ?9 o' }
  我認為他們應該對美國說聲謝謝,因為沒有美國慷慨地讓他們黑客盜竊我們的技術,他們絕對不可能做到這些。
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  If it is stamped : "Made in China" we have nothing to fear.4 |! A# B3 `! H3 q
  如果J15上面寫著中國制造,那么我們就放心多了。2 B' r% F! e$ {9 Z7 i

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2 Q0 Z7 `2 Z5 u# ]. R  Something wrong here! The picture doesnt show the landing gear down as described in the article. This pic. looks hookey!!! Ck. the background;looks a bit like a model in a studio to me.
+ O" v1 T2 l& C  我覺得是假的。這個圖片看起來很假。而且背景就像是在電影工作室里搞出來的一樣。
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  Is it made of plastic and marked MADE IN CHINA?
% ?: d4 L( Y2 w" Z# x- P* {  是塑料做的,然后噴上中國制造?; C* v6 Y5 m4 F

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  all thanks to clinton and the Republican congress--couldn't have done it without you!( S$ O& v) Z8 i( E2 j% t
  感謝克林頓和共和黨的議會啊,不然中國人絕對干不了這些事。
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Son of a Son of a Sailor ?   The one pictured looks an awful lot like one of Russia's stealth fighters.  怎么看起來那么丑哦,就像俄國的技術一樣。
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: ?4 A; o2 t  L4 i2 Z  We should sell them some cheap chinese scrap steel.
& @# m5 |+ J5 |  我們應該多賣些減價的中國廢鋼鐵給他們。  t% _7 V7 G6 c5 Q' L6 H# y
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: _7 l% _( Z2 @  So, I wonder who is threatening china so much that they need to buy only thebest technology,,or is it just that theyve got the money and need to waste it?* W' w/ r% l' f) j
  我真不明白誰能給中國那么大的威脅以至于他們要花那么多錢搞這些高技術的東西。也許他們就是閑錢太多了,沒處花搞來玩玩。+ V: x. A; A; h2 M! E9 G+ c; k9 b

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2 ?; f: u& T) h6 w: k* q! H. |  looks like they hacked our military computers again.....
0 o7 [  s# S! Y- D0 a* B' Q  看來他們又一次成功黑掉了我們的軍用計算機了。% z5 h$ Y! `5 T# H

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' M( P1 r2 U) K! K  So they have stealth technology. Big deal. They've had it since their j20 which came out years ago.
, D& v" Q6 ]4 d$ o# |+ J  這么說他們又一次偷了我們的技術。他們老這么干,從幾年前的殲20開始就這樣了
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5 k0 a9 y% I6 E/ ^4 B9 I  just remember the girl singing in olympics held in china....definitely you know what i mean.
( D! ], V, u0 j; [( M' G4 W  還記得中國在奧運會開幕式上唱歌那個小女孩嗎,你就知道我什么意思了。
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4 k* B9 r5 n# s8 C  Yeah, when the plane flies overhead, you hear its lip-synched exhaust.4 i. B- g% W: A% |; }3 m
  呵呵,當這個飛機飛過你頭上的時候,你會說那都是幻覺而已。
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  2012/11/24(土) 10:18ヤフコメ職人拾六號機(syo...)さん
% i% K: M7 ~2 I- B4 u! O8 \  削除/違反報告私もそう思う252點私はそう思わない13點
+ ?( u" S9 \9 j3 T- v  そのうち大事故が発生するだろうなw
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3 T- L* n. t: q3 r" i4 d  B* r2012/11/24(土) 10:24tom*at*tom*at*(tom...)さん
- R7 J  o8 D0 k3 J5 G( L  削除/違反報告私もそう思う185點私はそう思わない14點 - s& C* }0 N9 @. H
  次は【初の著艦失敗炎上による消火活動】だね 0 i- g( g' O( B7 L5 k; ~3 G9 Z
  明天就會聽到首次著艦失敗,發生火災的報道了吧。
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  削除/違反報告私もそう思う119點私はそう思わない2點 7 h5 i; G  a2 d) D9 X% E; w" c
  これで、先進國の仲間入りしたと勘違いするなよ & I/ K4 M- {. }6 n) H& X' k
  好了, 這下總該承認自己是發達國家了吧?
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! D5 V  z9 K) ^0 X8 I. f  削除/違反報告私もそう思う106點私はそう思わない1點 2 f# y4 }: I! a; {, n& h5 k, s
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2012/11/24(土) 10:32hinemosu(tom...)さん
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  波の靜かな所でやっと著艦が出來たのか?
% K* j; h$ K0 A( X: N. F5 X  そんなに嬉しいか?中國のパイロットの$ Q1 R: n5 B* i' ^/ W' r: l
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  拉倒吧,大海里怎么可能連波浪都沒有啊,這么安靜著艦誰不會啊。7 _5 z3 w/ A, x1 o
  簡直是好笑哦。中國的飛行員技術那么低,能做到嗎?
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  この空母の建造費以上のODAを日本は支出している/ ?! v* y6 @: i# J  {
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% J4 z% w. e( v) ]  x0 |  我が日本の外務省はどう考えているのか
! M) n/ L$ X4 i  日本の外務省は中國の犬に成り下がったのでは?! , }* C' B( n7 T$ n7 E
  這艘航母的建造費用完全是用的日本支出的ODA,累計3兆日元,都拿給中國用作軍備擴張了。日本的外務省不知道是怎么想的。日本外務省完全是中國的走狗。/ h+ [) a% w6 f% u; B0 T
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  就算成功又怎樣,也就一個人可以做到而已  [8 [$ o( F" C; I
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  削除/違反報告私もそう思う18點私はそう思わない0點 0 p2 m5 D& o; A% q$ W
  発艦より著艦の方が難しいはずなのにな!
: m. r' s- i9 `1 I: s: I  ぜひ動畫をあげてくれ! ' E- L, R4 ?& X3 O+ x- v+ M- I
  著艦那么復雜,難度那么大,根本就不可能做到。
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  削除/違反報告私もそう思う17點私はそう思わない0點
: O. Q- L: d& l. D( w. O# d: i: w  強度があるのは最初だけ。
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  ?ああ、中國制だもんな…?と思う。
0 Y, P# O1 ^" M2 `: n  第一艘的質量肯定是最好的了,余下的嘛,都會沉沒吧。畢竟是中國制造啊
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# }% W/ ~; m% h  U( b' v  ちなみに、この空母の獲得資金は日本からの中國ODAや黃砂対策費から賄われております。 " X0 C% r" E7 N+ I5 C( ^, Z
  這艘航母的建造資金絕對是從ODA和黃沙治理費里面挪用的。
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2 b. i$ r- Q+ K4 L  艦載機總共20多架,就一架成功降落了,其余的都在海里喂魚呢。
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  甲板上に戦闘機を荷降ろす訓練の成功ですか。 / [' u4 F- Z' D! e
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  這是中國對美國的警告啦。不過我倒樂意見到我們所有的工業都紛紛離開那個國家。
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  Patriot.........you sound like the fat cats that hate paying their taxes. So no unions or benefit packages for workers? You want them to work minimum wage with no perks whatsoever? Sounds greedy to me.
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0 m- A% f- H1 {5 \$ S: b  Ye all see this: American foreign policy is as broken as its border in the south. It is based on double standards and hypocrisy. The Chinese are clearly CAPITALIZING on these.
4 Z# t; l" w/ U6 r; y  美國的對外政策就像我們南部邊界一樣支離破碎。全部都充滿了雙重標準和高高在上不切實際。中國才是真正的資本主義啊。
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  clearly, allowing China to rise was an economic and military strategy to open new markets and counterbalancerussia's military. Driven by greed on one side and fear on the other. Now China will be a threat to both USA and Russia. It's hunger for energy, food, raw materials will surpass it's business agreements and its ability to control their military aggressions. over the nest 20 years the US decline will continue since it is moving more towards a socialist structure. The US military will have no choice but to decline in a declining economy. The balance of power will slowly shift to the next economic powerhouse, China. When the US dollar finally collapses there will be war with the east. Chances are that it will be a desperate battle first to preserve financial control and finally to preserve the country. Invasion is not out of the question. Remember China has 200 million men of military age and over the next 20 years will be developing their blue water navy and that includes troop transports.. l% ^; V- B" q  i. E
  平心而論,允許中國強大起來是基于兩方面的考慮,一方面是為了開拓廣闊的市場,另一方面是為了平衡抑制俄國佬。可是我們一方面為此獲利,另一方面卻打開了潘多拉的盒子。現在中國已經成為美國和俄國的威脅。中國對能源,食物和原材料的極度渴望以及貪婪已經遠遠超越了其貿易準則和對軍事力量的控制。今后20年美國還會繼續衰落,整個世界將會持續向左轉。美軍的力量也會隨著經濟的衰退而衰退。整個世界的軍事實力將會被中國這個超級大國所支配。當美元最終崩潰的時候,一場戰爭就在所難免了。最開始會是經濟和貿易戰,然后就演變成保家衛國的熱戰。中國的入侵是肯定的。要記住中國擁有2億適齡當兵的年輕人,而且用了20年來發展他們的藍水海軍和機動運兵能力。
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! P2 ]5 {8 k$ H) g  Allowing?? Who is doing the allowing??
8 ]2 e/ u8 v( s7 W! v* e3 |& `2 g  允許中國富起來?誰有這個權利?
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  A former Soviet ship, built in the Ukraine, operated by the Chinese - for the first time? What possibly could go wrong with that??- a% j+ K2 ?3 E: x
  一艘前蘇聯的船,在烏克蘭建造,中國人來操控,這是第一次嗎?
& j: `- c3 k! p$ n  這里面是不是有什么陰謀哦?
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- d1 l( x9 ]1 v4 g: C; E0 d  be careful or they might start landing helicopters on it to. maybe install a machine gun or two: ?$ O% F+ X$ @2 Z" W( M6 ~# `7 X$ K
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2 `1 ]0 i3 s; A  with that, they can still beat the philipines, vietnam, japan, cambodia, myanmar . etc etc. they dont have to beat the usa, just their weaker neighbors who cant afford anything except used american destroyers. from ww20 C$ M1 q5 q( A, ^. c) O! B0 p) V
  就算只有機關槍,他們仍然可以打敗菲律賓,越南,日本,柬埔寨,緬甸等國。他們沒必要來攻打美國,他們只想收拾那些不聽話的鄰居,那些鄰居除了一大堆美國二戰時期淘汰下來的舊武器就什么都沒有了。3 r' c* ]. z. Z- M( {/ z) v" a

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  E; P6 F. V5 Q! x: j4 \  我覺得是中國把烏克蘭沒有完成的事情做完了。那艘航母從來就沒有造完過,是中國自己把她弄完了# ^0 W5 }$ C' c7 {3 r0 I" A
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  what worries me is that these people won against us without guns back in the 50s...some of them had pistols...they would pick up guns from the fallen soldiers on the ground and keep attacking. That's what I call brave.
% o* p% c" p* T9 F( Q; U( [. H  讓我真正擔心的是這些將會成為我們敵人的中國人50年代(朝鮮戰爭)的時候連像樣的武器都沒有,他們只有幾把小米加步槍。他們在戰場上前赴后繼,毫不畏死,接過倒下戰友的槍就向上沖。這就是我說的勇敢。3 y& I# f' X6 W7 i) D/ M

/ l! {5 V; @6 Y: i' ~4 lKenneth Lee ? 8 hrs ago ! l( m$ [+ {0 U5 f3 P/ s$ B" e0 v
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  樓上,他們并沒有打敗我們(朝鮮戰爭),好好去學習一下歷史吧。
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4 ^* y- b: l. s8 M2 U" n3 H  Vinni As we are allies of Japan and the Philippines is a US protectorate. I seriously doubt that China would attack them. It would mean we would come to their defense and that would be a war which China does not want.. s' h$ k; r2 \( e
  要知道日本是我們的盟友,而菲律賓是我們的馬仔。我真心不信中國會攻擊他們。如果中國膽敢攻擊,那么美軍就會出動,那么中國就會同美國開戰,這是中國不愿見到的
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  Loki - Here's what could go wrong: The Chinese will keep getting better and better at modern warfare.....and all that that implies. Do you think we could take on China??? We can't even finish off the Arabs......
. h  `  Q1 n6 F( J& P! j0 Z  你有沒有搞錯哦?中國過去在戰場上都不弱,現在只會越來越強。所有的證據都證明了這一點。你真的認為我們打得贏中國嗎?看看我們在中東的表現吧,連那些阿拉伯人都搞不定】
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  Ls That wasn't brave, if they didn't do it they would be executed. Besides that was in Korea, a very limited war. We didn't lose we just didn't want to make a parking lot out of N Korea and China.
; s- M9 X, U% G4 e. X4 {  那不叫勇敢好不好,那些中國如果不向上沖,他們會被槍斃。我不認為朝鮮戰爭說明什么問題,那是一場非常有限的戰爭。我們并沒有輸,只不過我們最終不想在北朝鮮和中國搞什么停車場而已。8 U7 p& |6 G1 t) j: ^
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  Vinnie,any country invading another will have to be willing to take losses themselves.The US didnt have the stomach to sustain anymore losses in vietnam n they withdrew..China invaded vietnam and after sustaining massiive losses,they also withdrew.I bet you if that carrier was sunk by a lucky shot from antiquated weapons of the opponents,it will cause a gigantic loss of face for china...1 modern kamikaze will be devastating.& U+ _6 s7 A7 h8 I' J
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  SeaPath, the Chinese are becoming a force not to be reconed with. At this time we may be able to still beat them, however that won't last long. We are a dying empire, like pre-WWI England. The only reason they can't beat us at this time is due in no small part to the military spending from Republican leadership. But we are in insurmountable debt and our fate is sealed and another nail is added to the coffin everytime they pass a new Quantitative Easing bill or raise the debt sealing to infinite levels. Well, I'm going to go see the new Red Dawn movie and get ready for the coming war between the U.S. and China. No one wants it but it yet seems unavoidable.
8 C2 A+ N6 m5 a& L6 ]5 ^  中國正在成為一個超級強大的力量,這是無法阻擋的。我們現在也許還有能力打敗他們,但這種日子沒有幾天了。我們是一個垂死的帝國,就像二戰前的日不落帝國。現在之所以他們還不能打敗我們是因為共和黨的領導下軍隊還能得到最低程度的經費保證。但我們很快就要破產了,我們的命運已經決定了,每一個新法案的通過,每一次增稅的決定,都是一顆顆釘在我們棺材上的釘子。我準備去看看新一版的赤色黎明,先做好同中國決戰的準備。盡管大家都不愿看到,但這是不可避免的。
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  我們總想統治世界,總是一廂情愿認為別人都跟我們想的一樣。比如:中國絕不會在海外發展軍事基地,他們不需要通過軍事手段來獲得石油和天然氣(他們付錢買)
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  They should name it, thanks US labor unions, for making us totally noncompetitive in the world market place. I bet you will soon be able to buy a twinkie made in China, can't wait to see how the unions take care of the 18000 jobless hostess employees. / U( t" `0 E1 Q& g
  我覺得中國的航母應該取名為“感謝美國工會”號,要不是美國工會,他們才不可能在世界市場上那么有競爭力呢。我打賭很快你就能在市場上買到中國制造的奶油蛋糕了,然后看看咱們的工會是如何對待那些失業的18000名蛋糕店服務員吧。
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! L3 F# K7 f3 j" {# B9 NNot the average fool ? 4 hrs ago ' o9 L% X  r& Y  v, ~( f9 b1 {
  Pilotrod your right. When I read Craftsman tools are now Chinese made, that killed all hope for me!
! K! d1 I/ e4 X. E" I5 U" l  你們都說的很對啊。當我看到就連我們的五金工具(鉗子,扳手)都是中國制造的時候,那一刻我真是徹底絕望了  O' U$ y: r7 S+ A8 j
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7 x) {: c4 O9 t) \  heyhombre the bakers union at hostess makes "0" the union and there greed put them out of a job. all those lazy union people deserve what they got.just too bad they took down another company with them.time to wake up people
/ z8 B  g+ }5 H; o/ P8 z  那些狗屁的工會都是白癡,只會讓人們不斷地失業。那些加入工會的人罪有應得。他們只會讓一個又一個公司破產。是時候清醒了啊人們!9 b" W% T4 [- z3 H+ [" L

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  is it a cold war for them to have one carrier? and why do we act like its such a big deal when we spend hundreds of billions more than them?
8 Q' C5 K( L: B, B) n6 g/ ]% D) [! k# T  現在還是冷戰時刻嗎?不就是一艘航母嗎?我們花費數以萬億比他們多得多的錢在軍事上,為什么沒人指責呢?
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  well, considering that they didn't even have guns for their soldiers a few decades ago, this is amazing. BTW, they still won against us without guns., h- N6 T9 \" n
  你說的對,不過想想幾十年前他們的士兵甚至沒有像樣的槍,這就有意思了。順便說一下,他們即使沒有槍也能打敗我們+ j2 P  d+ v4 j& [; ?* a: B

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, w% A4 o& _, \. P( ]( _  it shows all the liitle countries on the pacific rim they can bring a war to their front yard if they don't get what they want. Yes it's a big deal." w* f* O4 x* [) d7 v
  這件事說明如果不給他們足夠的支援,那么太平洋那些小國隨時會遭受入侵。我覺得軍售的好時機到了。
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  I agree Edwin. One Carrier and one jet? I wish my job was that easy when I was active duty. Show of force is more like 3 Carrier battle groups parked off your coast.
2 T7 Z- b) U* A/ w" p& Z  我同意樓上所說的。僅僅是一艘航母和一架飛機而已。我倒希望我們真的就這么輕松簡單就好了。真正的秀肌肉那是至少要停泊三艘航母在你家門口,那才是呢。5 ]# i2 ~2 J& Z! c
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  We can continue to blame the president for China's enhanced military powers, but I know of this company named Apple and they provide lots of money to China.Apple is just one of the many thousand of providers to China. Many of you support China. Please don't act as if you don't know what I am talking about. The more you purchase from China the more they have to enhance thier military.
/ H3 V% N$ F, |4 H% Z  我們不斷地指責總統,指責他給了中國太多的機會來增強他們的軍事實力。可是我們知不知道有一家叫做蘋果的公司,這個公司給了中國無數的金錢。而蘋果只是無數的中國支助者的一個。他們全部都支持中國。你們別假裝不知道我在說什么。你購買中國制造越多,你就越增強了他們的軍事實力。
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* z: h* D1 b5 l# e9 x  E+ F  yahoooooozr, you need to get back on your meds. current Chinese military budget: $100 billion. current US military budget (2012): $700+ billion! yeah, we should be shaking in our boots right now......okay, NOT!
8 h4 r; r/ j' K( r9 I, ^) g  你們這幫白癡,你們清醒一點好嗎?中國今年的軍費開支只有一千億美元。而美國今年是七千億以上。看到這個數據,你們從頭涼到腳吧。
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  The us military is to expensive to be enlarged. the corruption alone could take 40 per cent of the budget .too many chief and very expensive Indians
  @6 ?, j+ R/ f! B3 v' @+ N+ X5 L  o 美國的軍隊太費錢了,很難有發展的空間。腐敗起碼吞噬了40%的預算。軍隊里充斥了太多官老爺,還有非常貴的印第安人。
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  @fannish--it is not the retailers bankrolling these wars, it is the big banks, and they bankroll bothsides, it is big business, they like wars.6 j( G$ U! W' Z* }4 m
  普通的百姓并不喜歡戰爭。挑起戰爭的是銀行,他們資助戰爭雙方,這是筆很大的買賣,他們喜歡打仗。
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peter ? 7 hrs ago
. \7 P" F& k+ S! O  Yes, but it wasn't an F-18. Don't worry though, at least not for the near-term. China's economy will come crashing down with the dollarand the Euro. Their 4 trillion plus in Dollarand Euro reserves will buy nothing, their export machine will fail, and the economy will collapse. It will take them decades to recover from what the US and Europe is about to do to them.1 l+ H+ |4 w2 X/ m: H; t! u% b: N
  好吧,就是那架飛機不是F-18。但也不要擔心,至少近期不用擔心。中國的經濟正在崩潰,RMB撐了不幾天了。他們的四萬億債務買不到任何東西,他們的出口將會崩潰,整個經濟也會崩潰。他們將需要數十年的時間來恢復美國和歐洲給他們造成的傷痛。$ O# i, I' h6 R. E6 q" ^

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) s& w/ @0 z* E0 Q' ?  anyway china can fly without an airplane..just see a movie from chinese karate..lol..0 _0 T. Z" f) {# r# U% f+ X
  不管如何,中國人不需要飛機也能飛。看看那些描寫中國功夫的電影吧。
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8 ~$ _' q. W, g4 jJake ? 7 hrs ago
# [6 n! x! E  v7 }  And America made TVs back in the 1940s, way before China. Now America doesn't make TVs anymore because China does it way better.
. T. N! j0 F9 T7 k' y4 u  美國1940年發明生產了電視,那時中國在干什么?可現在呢,美國造不出一臺電視,因為中國造的更好
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" d5 C' W6 o) U; V( b: P' v9 D+ tDave ? 6 hrs ago
& B5 D; ^/ B: H. A/ E0 f  I think the comments are funny in our attempt of disproving their aircraft. instead of applauding them for their effort to complete a piece of machinery, we're too self-centered to care Instead we bash on other countries by saying we're better. holy #$%$, we're being left in technology dust and we just others when they're better than us, dont we?/ ]7 O! h6 j9 s
  我覺得這些評論簡直可笑之極,我們只會一味貶低指責他們,而不是祝賀他們取得的巨大成就。我們太自以為是了,只認為自己最好,別人都不行,固步自封。天啦,殊不知我們早已落后了,現在是別人更好,而不是我們,明白嗎?
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Jocko ? 6 hrs ago ! [* ?, p, G. D0 `8 ?2 s
  Dave are you suggesting that the Chinese are better at invention, military hardware, or otherwise generally better? Human rights maybe. Individual freedom. Fewer genocides? I suggest you spend a few weeks in Chinba. We look forward to your report.: e) p' j" x) a3 @  A
  樓上,你是不是在說中國在發明創造,軍事硬件和別的方面都超過了美國?我覺得人權方面也許他們更好吧,還有自由和種族滅絕方面。我建議你去一趟中國,在那兒帶上幾周。我們期待你的旅行見聞。: k( T; \! b* Q2 Z+ H2 @- \7 o

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  by abc xyz (View MyPage) on Nov 26, 2012 10:02 AM | Hide replies
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- W4 W* l6 g; y4 V. N9 e  J15 looks exactly like Su-33.
  K: v. h6 G0 B  B0 q; G/ Y7 |  殲15看起來很像蘇33啊
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7 x( q# o" R+ G) `1 CRe: copy cat
& P* {7 o6 {! j  by indranil chindhade (View MyPage) on Nov 26, 2012 10:25 AM # P' M2 x; z# D( L2 E7 o' v" z9 x
  chinese are best at copying others modern technologies,most of their hi tech weapons are copies of US or russian weapons with violation of intellectual property rights.) ^$ h: y' B" ]  {$ `( M# X
  中國最善于山寨,他們的很多高科技都是從別的國家比如美國和俄羅斯山寨過來的,而且他們肆意違反國際版權法。
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9 R6 ]: U; o/ {: V  by nithesh (View MyPage) on Nov 26, 2012 10:32 AM
4 z$ N+ o3 ?+ a" R' ]9 X* ?  Without knowing the facts, dont make sweeping statements.. In 10 years rest of the world will be copying China..$ I! _. M' L9 e! B
  Western media is trying to tarnish China and always give negativbe statements on China..
, q- G/ s. l' e& X$ X2 F+ C, ~  The fact is, in 10 years China will be the no.1 super power.. US and other developed countries will have to follow China, just like other countries following US now..4 ]; n( e' B5 ]# k
  你們什么也不知道,就別亂下結論了。十年以后,整個世界都要山寨中國。: k; n) w4 i" t5 M
  西方媒體一直都在故意貶低中國,他們只關心關于中國的負面報道。
! P* P! M- x' E- `/ s; z  10年以后,中國將成為世界第一的超級大國。美國和其他發達國家只配當小弟,就像其他國家現在追隨美國一樣。
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, Z) l( s/ n4 Z, b, C& M  by madhusoo dana rao (View MyPage) on Nov 26, 2012 11:43 AM   ?1 h3 W/ s8 \9 r! q/ @
  Whats wrong in copying?
$ h! \7 m) j+ t* p3 e/ y  But you should how to copy too!! And the Chinese are masters in it. For them R&D stands for Replication and Duplication.% @  ]! q- Y$ s* q
  Instead of criticizing India should learn a few lessons from Chinese.
8 k( q6 o6 T5 j4 ], Z# L, V4 y  Most of the Indian defense personals do not want Indian weapons , as they want to buy them cheap from foreign sellers and pocket good commissions. The sabotage of the Arjun  tank by the Indian Army is best example.9 g9 h2 H/ [" d+ T9 s
  山寨有什么不好嗎?& X0 K+ o+ K9 U. p, |
  你要山寨也得有山寨的技術啊,中國就是這方面的祖宗。他們懂得山寨的一切門道,看一眼就能模仿。# X% n' i; n& k: v# a
  印度應該多向中國學習,而不是酸溜溜地挖苦。5 p" p/ O9 @) K# h+ w
  很多印度國防部的人并不想使用印度國產武器,他們喜歡從國外買然后吃回扣,阿瓊坦克就是一個例子。6 I/ X2 q1 T" O& x6 G4 O. l8 b

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$ y/ {" B# S! p7 _5 F  by piri (View MyPage) on Nov 26, 2012 12:03 PM
4 B# B1 L/ N+ d# s  indians do not even know how to copy!
0 \9 E2 h# k+ w: H" H  They tried to copy the Russian T 90 in the Arjun MBT (Mark 1 and Mark 2). But they could succeed only partially and this resulted in a much heavier  tank (the Arjun Mark II weighs 66 tons against the T 90s 40 tons).9 s, z! v: |7 R+ F+ s
  The DRDO tried to compensate by increasing the thickness of the armour and this resulted in the  tank's weight increasing to 66 tons. Besides lesser maouvreability on the field due to such a heavy weight, the Arjun also needs a much more powerful engine to match the T 90s speed and acceleration and this too remains an issue!! X( V$ h* Z* c* K: [
  Due to these problems, the Indian army has been lukewarm to the Arjun and is going ahead with the purchase of hundreds of new T 90s!
* }- |  w  z( `% M; x  Copying of high tech equipment also needs a lot of technical knowhow and in this, Indian establishments sure lag the Chinese by miles!! M: A- c7 {& B
  印度人甚至不懂得如何山寨。& i' K) l4 X% w. C! v
  他們試圖山寨俄羅斯的T90坦克,結果造出來的阿瓊MBT只是似是而非,重量比T90重了幾個級別。阿瓊試圖增加防御鋼板的厚度,結果整體重了66噸。這樣做的后果是需要更為強大的引擎來驅動這個大怪物,速度和機動性比起T90也差了不少。
0 \! T4 L9 Z- a) h4 x: u) v( U  O  因為這些問題,印度軍隊最終放棄了這個怪物,轉而購買了大量的T90.
& Y4 Y, N: l8 ]5 B8 l6 q  山寨也是門技術,也需要知識和本事。印度在這方面落后中國太多太多。
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& G: ^" q) R; k, s" h  it is almost as if you went out to get a bugatti and told your pals you just need a car to go pick up your groceries and kids.0 p" P5 L/ `. h' [6 M7 C& b: u$ T
  but again, if one can afford it why not? it is going to cost a hefty amount to maintain that fleet , another level of spending compared to conventional defence budget.% z: q2 r1 U9 X* ~7 d8 l$ r
  the risk of having such big toy is the constant lure it present to the owner not to have a live test against it's capability . again something that took big excuse to.
4 y5 X3 v3 C  ?- ^5 W  z, l  我從來不認為航母能在國防方面起什么作用。
: H# B: ]7 n  e: u/ C  就像你只需要運送一些雜物和小孩子,你卻出去叫了一輛布加迪。
$ C5 }- z* C& O& Q  不過話又說回來,如果你錢多的花不了,那么叫一輛布加迪也沒什么。航母這個東西很貴的,需要花費大量的金錢來維持其運行,比傳統的防守方式費錢多了。$ P7 H$ L/ b/ z( M( T
  而這個昂貴的玩具帶給其主人的另一個誘惑是,它是個吸血鬼,不斷地要你往里面砸錢,不斷要你升級裝備和外掛,直到你破產為止
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' h, ?$ n  m6 V" V, {4 yAh Beng ? 2 hours 41 minutes ago 9 b% y" z, v4 E" G' s2 b7 ~7 R$ r5 W0 J
  If China is like 200 years ago, there will be war. Everyone will declare war with them. With more military might, it deters war. History has proven that. So China, please build more. The more they build, it ensured peace for 1/5 of the world's population. History has also proven China has never invaded others before.
( f( l" C; m$ i  如果中國還是200年前那樣虛弱好欺負,那么戰爭早就爆發了。每個人都會同中國宣戰。但如果你更為強大,那么你就可以遏制住戰爭。歷史無數次地證明了這點。所以中國請更強大些吧。你們越強大,就可以保證世界1/5的人口的和平。歷史證明,中國以前從來沒有侵略過任何國家。
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, J- B9 p: T  q  Jan, don't propagate western prejudices on this post. China has never invaded Tibet! Tibet has been part of China since the Yuan dynasty. Pls check your facts before providing your opinion., {2 C# c. t2 f6 x# u  k3 K
  你們不要被西方的宣傳給蒙蔽了。中國從來沒有入侵過西藏。西藏從元朝開始就屬于中國了。請張嘴之前多讀點書吧。3 C0 J* _# d6 C* G9 h$ h! V
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2 a) q! H! N. K, C  @Ah Beng, i guess you failed your history & geography in school. History has also proven China has never invaded others before? Are you joking?4 L- F; [' D/ i0 l4 p
  Go read up history books on various dynasties - 夏,商,西周東周,春秋戰國,秦,漢,三國,西晉東晉,十六國,南北朝,隋,唐,五代十國, 南北宋,遼,西夏,金,元明,清,中華民國,中華人民共和. Wars is also part of China history till today.
1 d9 E. g; m- T  Tii today PRC still had territorial disputes with its neighbouring countries, India, Vietnam, Philippine, Nepal, Japan, Taiwan. I recall PRC signed some sort of pacts with Russia & N.Korea years ago to settle their territorial disputes by giving up some lands to them. & ~- B" a( X3 Q$ ?3 s: D& _
  Is Tibet part of China before the Yuan dynasty? Who builded the Yuan dynasty? The Hans tribe or the Mongolian? After you took something from others by force & later you claimed it as yours, is that the right thing to do? This is conqueror is the keeper theory.
# C4 a# x: m$ P& e  樓豬,你傻了吧,居然說中國從來就沒有入侵過任何國家。我猜你的地理和歷史老師都死光了吧。歷史無數次的證明中國就是個侵略成性的國家。
) J- B5 y) Y& `$ Y$ t  看看歷史書吧,中國的朝代數十個,個個都是通過戰爭獲得的土地,中國的歷史就是戰爭的歷史。
; }$ _. |6 S4 G) I  直到今天,中國任然跟幾乎所有的領國有領土爭端,包括印度,越南,菲律賓,尼泊爾,日本,臺灣。我記得中國幾年前才通過割讓部分領土的方式同俄羅斯和北朝鮮簽訂了協定解決了其領土糾紛。3 K" i9 ^! ~) c: ]# i' H* Z
  西藏在元朝之前屬于中國嗎?誰建立的元朝?是漢人還是蒙古人?你從別人手里搶過來的東西,然后你宣布這屬于你的,這世上哪有這樣的道理?這是赤裸裸的強盜邏輯。
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zerowing + 1 搬運很辛苦
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發表于 2013-7-6 15:48:43 | 只看該作者
說實話,相比評價,我更想知道J15究竟是個什么水平。

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北美的牛仔節。會有空軍助興。哈哈。  發表于 2013-7-6 16:48
睜大眼睛看。我也想看。可是沒機會。在哪里?肉身去不了現場。網上搜搜看。  發表于 2013-7-6 16:44
唉。這東西,只能關注著看。沒法輕易下結論。哈,我這明天有F22表演。  發表于 2013-7-6 16:28
是啊。上不了戰場。可這又這是必須要有的。不然永遠被被別人捏著玩。說出來你別笑。一些俊宮廠的地方。工程師的基礎和視野。還不如民營企業的工程師。你看件20。不看飛機。整個結構式飛不起速度的。  發表于 2013-7-6 16:21
哈,說實話,貓,只要J15還在用毛子的發動機,我就不認為這東西能上戰場。哈哈。  發表于 2013-7-6 16:09
嚴格來說。整個系統是上不了戰場的。出勤率。穩定性。維護水平。比美國差了好幾個檔次。美國飛機只需要在航母上維護。我們的需要飛回內陸。所以沒有可比性的。這一點就可以看出。我們是沒有遠洋作戰能力的。  發表于 2013-7-6 16:05
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zerowing 發表于 2013-7-6 15:48 # A; P+ n$ W! A  j' G: g9 K! ]
說實話,相比評價,我更想知道J15究竟是個什么水平。
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相比評價是要和誰比?和Su33的話,航電要好。

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...我的意思是相比評論。。。看來有歧義了。哈  發表于 2013-7-6 16:27
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 樓主| 發表于 2013-7-6 16:41:41 | 只看該作者
zerowing 發表于 2013-7-6 15:48
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% O8 k+ ^. P1 l3 S+ P& p7 `http://lt.cjdby.net/thread-955706-1-1.html
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Z俠時差黨啊。哈哈  發表于 2013-7-6 16:48
感謝,收藏了先。等等8爺的新帖就睡了。明天起來看  發表于 2013-7-6 16:46
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這些評論有意思
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發表于 2013-8-3 08:04:20 | 只看該作者
困了。。。
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發表于 2013-8-5 22:30:54 | 只看該作者
老外一如即往的自以為是,總認為自己天下第一,同樣他們也有COPY中國的產品
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笑死  挺有意思的,他們說的不一定是事實,但一定代表了他們國家平民的心聲,其實底層文化之間的了解才能化解不必要的誤會
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兩個字,干他
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