海歸不成返美的那些人很浮躁

山芋頭

看見(jiàn)998剛才人家問(wèn)俺一個(gè)挺逗的話題，以后的出路就是出去侃嗎？。本人感覺(jué)是海歸后重新回美國(guó)的那些人不能用，他們對(duì)金錢的浮躁真是青出于藍(lán)而勝于藍(lán)。

一朋友醫(yī)學(xué)博士，10年響應(yīng)政府號(hào)召海歸回國(guó)辦藥廠，過(guò)期專利的那種藥物和中間體，改造的舊廠房為藥物車間也相當(dāng)氣派，辦公大樓同樣氣派，但不知為什么仍然一事無(wú)成，重新回美國(guó)。15年和我們談一個(gè)中間體（副產(chǎn)品）項(xiàng)目，開(kāi)口25萬(wàn)美金/年薪，要按月支付，2年合同。哈，年薪成了月薪。月薪按8000米他又不甘心，最終就這么不了了之。新年電話聊天，方知道他現(xiàn)在做起房地產(chǎn)生意，買賣美國(guó)土地房地產(chǎn)等，不知道收入如何。

* v& G7 j, o! d美國(guó)的年薪和月薪完全二回事，是2個(gè)不同的概念，年薪遠(yuǎn)超月薪，是指很高的工資，在歐米國(guó)家的公司，一般月薪超過(guò)1萬(wàn)美金就按年薪計(jì)算，要么你自己開(kāi)公司，給其他公司做顧問(wèn)或成為供應(yīng)商，要么拿月薪。

山芋頭

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998經(jīng)常說(shuō)的4000米，就是美國(guó)一般工程師的工資水平，工作年限5年左右，主要看自己的能力，尤其是動(dòng)手能力。美國(guó)工業(yè)體系和中國(guó)工業(yè)體系（模仿蘇聯(lián)）差別很大，工程師自己不能動(dòng)手做自己設(shè)計(jì)的東西是不可想象的，除非不是你專業(yè)領(lǐng)域的東西，才有借口說(shuō)不會(huì)。
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補(bǔ)充內(nèi)容 (2016-1-29 15:43):
人說(shuō)井底之蛙，不會(huì)承認(rèn)的，但一開(kāi)口就知道你是不是，哈哈，

negtive

山芋頭 發(fā)表于 2016-1-28 20:09
3 _5 |" G4 s. ~( s% U+ ^: `$ h. B- e998經(jīng)常說(shuō)的4000米，就是美國(guó)一般工程師的工資水平，工作年限5年左右，主要看自己的能力，尤其是動(dòng)手能力。 ...

那，比如那個(gè)吸盤，這個(gè)哥們至少得會(huì)車床了吧。我不是科班，不太懂國(guó)內(nèi)跟國(guó)外工程師培養(yǎng)有什么不一樣的。同樣三十年，我們工作時(shí)間都花在哪了？

davyhero4

I recently just finished my degree and went through the job search process. I found that there was a fairly large number of openings with companies looking for people with a background in hydraulics and hydrology, but the majority were looking for someone with a background in municipal design or watershed modeling and several years of experience. The USACE occasionally also has openings for engineers with a background in hydraulics (they have two right now for hydraulic engineers as a matter of fact). Look into some of the companies that have previously been involved with projects that seem to be similar to what you'd be into and see if they're hiring (or just send them a resume and cover letter regardless; they don't always post on the job boards!).

: O0 B4 r) m+ a( E1 SWith only a bachelor's the starting salaries I was finding was only between $46k to $49k, but with a Master's I was finding between $54k to $57k. The positions capped out at between $90k to $103k. I'm honestly not sure how these compare to other specializations...I wouldn't be surprised at all if structurals earned more!
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( e6 a" D, P; MIf you do decide on heading into h&h, however, I would strongly suggest continuing on and getting your master's. It may not pay off immediately upon graduation without the work experience to go with it, but the positions that appeared to be the most interesting and challenging required an advanced degree.

davyhero4

I would go do a quick yahoo job search and see what people are paying.

) h! B$ O+ a% c5 ~I know some guys who are simple coal miners and make 500k a year if they agree to go over sea's and work. Other wise it's back to the regular 60k a year pay. It just depends on where it is needed and how valuable your skill is.

However as for hydraulics I knew a guy who got out of the navy got offered like 90k a year to go work on satellite dishes...

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離榮盡生

有時(shí)候想去車間干干活，師傅都不敢讓我干，因?yàn)椴粫?huì)啊，更別提機(jī)床了，計(jì)件生產(chǎn)，一個(gè)比一個(gè)急